Creator of Spring: No Desire to Write Java at All

Published March 27, 2025
Sebastian and Márton chat with Rod Johnson, the creator of the Spring Framework. Rod tells the story of how Spring was born more than two decades ago, and shares his recent journey of coming back to the JVM and discovering all the fun of being a newcomer to Kotlin.

About Rod Johnson

Rod Johnson is the creator of the Spring Framework, and recently returned to the JVM ecosystem, discovering Kotlin as a newcomer.

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